Tesla, TSLA & The Investment World: The 2019 Investors' Roundtable
Separate names with a comma. 60k EV, then bravo Ford and they should have said more about their motors and their batteries and their charging network, because the creamed Nissan, GM, Jag, Audi and Mercedes. According to arstechnica the bigger battery size needed for 300 miles of EPA range is 98.9kWh for the RWD configuration. That's Model X/S territory, which makes me wonder how are they making money selling the top trim for 60k? The larger pack is 98.9kWh, made from 12 modules of 376 cells. That's a lot of energy to play with, and Ford thinks that will be sufficient for 300 miles (482km) when fitted to a rear-wheel drive Mach E, which should go a long way to countering range anxiety. DC fast-charging one of those at 150kW should take the battery state of charge from 10 to 80% in 38 minutes. I wonder if everybody in that audience now gets to go pick up their free coupon for their breakfast at Denny鈥檚. I thought they attended for the free oil change and filter coupon but they only got a Denny's breakfast?
60k EV, then bravo Ford and they should have said more about their motors and their batteries and their charging network, because the creamed Nissan, GM, Jag, Audi and Mercedes. The price is on point for a newcomer. The efficiency is just like the rest. They are using 25kw more than Tesla to get the same done. Different cars. 300 miles is the LR RWD version of the car, 3.5 0-60 is the AWD GT version of the car. Well the Mustang Mach-E seems ok. The real question is what the Pinto Mach-E will be like. The Pinto Mach-E will have the battery pack behind the rear axle. Different cars. 300 miles is the RWD version of the car, 3.5 0-60 is the AWD GT version of the car. Really shows how inefficient the motors are. OK, having read the comments of the Mach-E reveal, one thing seems sorely missing. Did they say when you or I could actually buy one (not that educated EV consumers actually want one)? And did they say how many they will make next year (and the following year)?
Tesla collaboration because there was never a chance there would be Tesla collaboration on this one, despite this thread's collective lost mind this weekend. OK, having read the comments of the Mach-E reveal, one thing seems sorely missing. Did they say when you or I could actually buy one (not that educated EV consumers actually want one)? And did they say how many they will make next year (and the following year)? You have got to be kidding! So no immediate plans to make this widely available? And yet the specs are very yesteryear? Really shows how inefficient the motors are. Tesla collaboration because there was never a chance there would be Tesla collaboration on this one, despite this thread's collective lost mind this weekend. Just for the record, I also started there wouldn't be a collaboration because power train is the heart of an automaker's brand image. Just pointed out that IF there was one, then it would have proved our speculation about Maxwell being right.
These manufactures are all hitting an efficiency wall on motor design. Just couldn't get those magnets lined up like how Tesla is doing it as Munro speculated. I did like the exterior but if you take the Mustang logo off the grill, I would not recognize it as a Mustang. It was in the fine print. The fast one is mid-2021. Not as good as me. Or irrelevant. Who is "Robb Report"? Edit: I see. An American Lifestyle magazine. Is it popular/widely read? Just a minor correction: USA ! World. But yes, the pick-up market in the US is huge. Success will depend on 1, how crazy Elon got with the design (one key Tesla success factor was that their cars look like normal cars) 2, how quickly thy can start making them. PS: For instance the US and European new car market is roughly the same size (2018 US was 17.3M Europe was 15.6M), but about 8 of the European Top 10 would fit in the back of an F150.
Pickups are quite popular outside of Europe. The difference is outside of North America most pickups are compact with 4 cylinder diesel engines. Now that China is wealthier Ford has started to import Raptor Pickup Trucks into China. So, seems like this would put an end to F/Tesla partnership speculations. MNCs are not monogamous. That makes no sense! Elon Musk has not been shy about letting known his dislike of traditional auto-dealerships. Anyone who doesn't understand that probably shouldn't be investing in Tesla with real money. Anything Ford does selling rebadged Teslas, or Ford glyders with Tesla powertrains is additive to what Tesla does.Ditto for service. I doubt Elon minds a Model Y owner getting his vehicle serviced in rural Northern Michigan at a Ford dealer when there is no Tesla service center around and won't be for some time. In areas were there are Tesla and Ford dealerships around if Ford sucks as hard as you suppose at service they won't get any business from Tesla customers or owners of Ford rebadged Teslas. Competition takes care of this problem. I am sure some Ford dealers will step up and some won't.
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