So With The Carrera GT

The Porsche Carrera GT is a mid-engined sports car from Porsche which was produced from 2004 until 2007. Originally a production of 1.500 units was planned. However, Porsche announced in August 2005 that they won鈥檛 continue to produce the GT. By the end of 2006 more than 1,270 units were sold. Porsche started developing a prototype that was supposed to drive the 24 Hours of Le Mans but they did not finish the project because they wanted to put more effort in developing the Porsche Cayenne. Porsche then decided to take the race car鈥檚 engine and chassis and build a small series production car. So with the Carrera GT, Porsche built an uncompromising road legal race car with a manual clutch, carbon brakes, a carbon clutch and a V10 engine that was made for racing. The GT accelerates from 0-100 km/h in 3.9 seconds with a top speed of 330 km/h. The Carrera GT鈥檚 opponents are the Ferrari Enzo and Mercedes-Benz McLaren SLR.

And it does this with aplomb. The Supra MKV, even if it's not the same as a bubble economy era MKIV, seems to be much more focused on driver involvement and engagement in a traditional RWD chassis at a significantly lower price point. With the exception of the foolish initial lack of a manual transmission, all things considered in today's difficult sportscar industry with all the increasingly restrictive regulations they have to conform to so far I think they've done very well. They just need to get moving already on releasing the additional options and variants. Last edited by KahnBB6; 05-07-19 at 12:53 AM. 170k in some trims the Supra MKV should also be doing exactly the same. The R35 is a magnificent supercar but it's already far more expensive that the original 2007 model and its a very different car than the 1998-2002 R34 GT-R and the R33 and R32 that preceded it. Nissan decided to take it where they did and the car world is certainly better for it but it's no longer an attainable GT-R, nor does it offer the same style of involvement that the R32-R34's did.

50k car (not including a later GRMN which will command significantly more) is a lot closer to attainable while still offering most of what people expect from a Supra. Of course currently minus a manual transmission option. 100k with the VR engine family. But whatever. The R35 has already been a legend since it first arrived and that's that. 20k BorgWarner DCT transmission I'm happy that Toyota's Supra is roughly half that. 80k car. Ever check the actual monthly sales numbers for Nissan R35 GTRs? It's not many at all. Toyota wants to sell a LOT more MKV Supras than Nissan sells R35 GTRs. The R35 GT-R is all about using any technology necessary to produce the highest performance number benchmarks possible. And it does this with aplomb. The Supra MKV, even if it's not the same as a bubble economy era MKIV, seems to be much more focused on driver involvement and engagement in a traditional RWD chassis at a significantly lower price point.

With the exception of the foolish initial lack of a manual transmission, all things considered in today's difficult sportscar industry with all the increasingly restrictive regulations they have to conform to so far I think they've done very well. They just need to get moving already on releasing the additional options and variants. 80K in 2007, the price has gone up significantly for the same basic car due to exchange rates and some other factors not really related to the original car actually cost to design/build which is why sales have fallen significantly. I agree with a lot of your observations. The choice to partner with BMW totally had to do with cost, savings, and effort. It is difficult to get a sports car okayed by management especially these days so unfortunately I don't think there was much choice though their CEO is the one who pushed for it so that is different. I doubt many Supra fans would have been too disappointed if they went with a higher tuned 3.5tt V6 from the LS500 or better yet a tt V8 or maybe some crazy NA 8 cylinder.